1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Alright, Mr. Hill, in New Hampshire, could you give us a story about sighting? 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Well, this happened in 1961, Tuesday the 19th of September. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,000 And my wife and I were returning from New Hampshire from a correction from Canada to New Hampshire. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:29,000 We were driving along Route 3, and it was approximately 11 o'clock at night in the evening when we saw what looked like a bright star in the heavens. 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,000 It was the brightest star up there, and it was very clear night. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,000 So my wife remarked, I was driving the car, and she remarked that the star had begun to move. 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:47,000 So this caused me to look through the windshield up towards the sky, and I told her that it was probably a satellite. 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Nothing to get alarmed about. We did have a pair of 7x50 crescent binoculars with us. 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,000 So I stopped the car and we got out, and she took the binoculars and was looking at the object, 10 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:09,000 and I reached under the seat to get our little doggy, a little doxon, and put the chain on her to walk her about while my wife was looking at the object. 11 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:19,000 And she then passed the binoculars to me and said, well, you must really look at this satellite because it's not behaving as we would expect a satellite to behave like. 12 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Well, I took the binoculars from her and I too began looking, and surprisingly this, what I thought was a star and a satellite, began coming in my direction at a very rapid rate of speed. 13 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:44,000 I was standing to give a picture, I was standing facing the west, which would have been toward Vermont, and the object was coming from my left which would have been to the south of me, 14 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:53,000 and as it passed my right shoulder, it was quite a distance out. It made a left turn, completing the turn, and coming in toward me. 15 00:01:53,000 --> 00:02:05,000 This caused me to become quite alarmed, and I told my wife, well, apparently it is not a satellite, it must be a passenger plane, and they obviously are looking at us, 16 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:18,000 and I thought that the pilot was having fun, that he could easily see our car with the dome light on. We had not passed any traffic that evening, going or coming in either direction. 17 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:30,000 So I felt a bit uncomfortable to see this, what I thought was a plane come in our direction, so I returned to the car, and so did she, and we drove down the highway. 18 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:44,000 We continued driving south, and my wife would occasionally remark that this object was still following us. It was flying in a very erratic pattern, and she wanted me to stop, and I would occasionally look over and toward her side, 19 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:53,000 and I could see that this light was still out there moving about. It would go up, and then it would come down at very rapid and odd patterns of flight. 20 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Well, then I thought it was probably a military craft, and I was thinking of the hot rod type flyer, and apparently they were having fun with us. These are the thoughts that were going on in my mind, because I had not at any time ever given any thought to UFOs. 21 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:25,000 You might say that I was a bit cynical about the entire idea concerning you unidentified flying objects. Well, this continued on for several miles as we would travel and stop and look, and then continue to travel again. 22 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:42,000 And finally, my wife became very upset. She said, I must stop the car again. Look, right overhead, and I looked through the windshield off to the right, on her passenger side of the car, and this object now was very extremely close, and it was moving backwards. 23 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:56,000 And what I failed to mention is when we saw the object off in a great distance, it appeared to be winking, but now that it was close, it looked as if there was just one solid band of light, and this was moving backwards. 24 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And I had slowed the car down to approximately five miles an hour. Well, this was very upsetting, so I came to a complete stop in the center of the highway. I got out of the car, and I took the binoculars, I rest my left arm on the door that was open to the car door, and my right elbow on the roof of the car, and I tried to look, but the car was, motor was running, so I had to step away. 25 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:34,000 As I stepped away from the car, the object swung from the passenger side over to the left, which would have been the side that I was driving, and making a large mark-like turn, placing it over a field. 26 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Well, this was very alarming to me, and I began walking across the highway, looking up at the object with the binoculars, putting them down, shaking my head, saying, well, this just can't be true. I don't believe it. 27 00:04:48,000 --> 00:05:07,000 And I continued to walk until I was about, oh, I would say approximately 100 feet in this field, across this field, and the object was just above me. And this is when, while looking with the binoculars, I could see what I thought was approximately 9 to 11 men. 28 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:21,000 I would describe them, I would say that they were men. There was nothing grotesque about them. Looking back at me, looking down through this plate of glass, a series of windows toward me. 29 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:34,000 So I then was quite alarmed, but they, of the group that was looking, they all turned to the back of, so that was facing the back of them. There was a panel. It looked as if it was a panel. 30 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:41,000 They began pulling levers. Only one object continued to stare from the window down toward me. 31 00:05:41,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And I then saw two red lights on the side of the craft, which seemed to be the extension of a wing, a fan type wing. I would describe it, not a conventional wing that we associate with the airplanes, but more of a fan type thing, moving away from the side of this object, which had the shape of the so-called flying saucer. 32 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Well, this was too much for me, and I made a hasty retreat to the car, screaming to the wife that they had seen me, they had seen us, and we had to get away. And this was the extent of the sighting, which I found very distressing and very difficult to believe. 33 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Mr. Hill, did you report this to anyone? 34 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Yes, we did. After we arrived home and fought for us, well, we decided we wouldn't mention this to anyone that it was too ridiculous, too absurd for us to believe. Yet we knew we had seen something, something that was strange to us. 35 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:59,000 I suppose we can both tell what a plane looked like, and I failed to mention that there was the absence of any sound. There was absolutely no sound associated with this object. It must have at the time been approximately 100 feet above my head. 36 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:19,000 The size of it was about approximately, if you were looking at a large military plane or at any commercial airliner, from tail to head, this is the size of it as the series of windows were around it. This is how huge it was. 37 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:37,000 When we arrived in Portland, we decided not to tell anyone, but my wife decided she would tell her sister. Well, she called her sister and she said, well, hang up, she was going to call a friend of hers that is a physicist and ask what he knows about these things. 38 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:51,000 So she called us, her sister called us back to tell us that the physicist suggested that we go out and see if there was any radioactivity around, ready anything unusual about the car if we had a compass to take it with us. 39 00:07:51,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Well, this was too much for me. I told my wife that as far as I was concerned, I wanted to forget the whole thing. And so she said, well, where's the compass? And I told her, well, I don't know. I put it somewhere. And she said, well, where's the compass? I said, oh, geez, if you're going to keep this up, I'll smash the compass. 40 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:21,000 And she said, well, if you do, I'll go out and buy another one. And so she found the compass, she went out, she came back in to the house, very excited, and insisted on me going out and looking at her car. We were using her car at the time. 41 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Well, on the trunk of her car, there were these large, shiny spots about the size of silver dollar. There must have been approximately 20 of these spots, not in any particular pattern, but just these spots on the trunk. 42 00:08:36,000 --> 00:09:01,000 After having traveled the distance we had, the car was quite dusty, but these spots were very, very highly shiny. And wherever she would put the compass near these spots, the compass would spin. But if she placed the compass close to any of the areas where the spot weren't located, surprisingly, the compass then would tilt downward toward the middle of the car. 43 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Well, I thought this was a bit unusual because I did try to say, well, in any time you take the compass and place it around any metal, particularly like a car, with a battery, it will attract a magnet to it. But the fact that the compass would spin only in the area where the spot was located, I thought was a bit unusual. 44 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:29,000 And then this is when my wife decided, well, we should notify someone, and we thought of notifying the military base located in this area. 45 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 And briefly, what was their reaction to this? 46 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:51,000 It was curious and interesting. I didn't want any parts of it. I told my wife that she could go ahead and contact them and leave me out of it. But while talking to her, then they asked for me to give my account of it. And this caught true me into the conversation. 47 00:09:51,000 --> 00:10:12,000 So I also talked to a major and he then explained to me that the conversation was going to be monitored and that I was to hold on and the conversation wasn't not going to take place at this particular military establishment, but elsewhere, but he did not designate where. 48 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:24,000 So I held on for a few minutes, brief minutes, and then another voice came on telling me to tell all that I had seen and given account, a full account, in the description of this thing that I had seen. 49 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Have you heard from them since that time? 50 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Well, they called back the following morning about 8.30 or 9 o'clock in the morning. I thought what this officer had to say was very interesting. He did not elaborate on why he said this, but he said he had been up all night working on the description of the wings of this and the two red lights. 51 00:10:46,000 --> 00:11:00,000 And that could I give any more information? Well, I had given him all the information I could at the time about it and that was the extent of the contact we had with the military, with the Air Force. 52 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 You describe these people or things you saw at the window? 53 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 To give a description of them? Yes. 54 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Yes. Well, there was nothing unusual about them. They did have on what I thought was a black type, shiny uniform similar to the kind you find motorcyclists wearing, the black leather type jackets and whatnot. 55 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:46,000 And the one that I will now just identify for identifying purposes is called a leader. Well, he had on a military type cap with a visor while the others did not. And they moved back away from the window while this one with the black leather type uniform, I will say uniform, continued to look down at me. 56 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 I think you indicated earlier that they were pretty human looking. 57 00:11:49,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Yes, and you have to consider that looking at anyone in a window 10 stories up with a binocular. The only thing you can discern is that they looked human and nothing grotesque about them. 58 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Well, this is West Fitch. Did you feel there was anything sinister about these people? Did you get that impression? 59 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Yes, I did. Only that it was a strange situation and therefore I have thought of this many times that is to say, was there anything sinister about them? Or was it because of the unusual situation that I was in magnifying my feelings? 60 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I did feel that there was something sinister, strange, unusual about the whole thing. 61 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Do you feel that those thoughts had anything to do with that beeping sound that followed your car? 62 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:53,000 I failed to mention that, didn't I? When I returned to the car when we were up in the mountains, when I mentioned to my wife that, oh my God, I said they are looking at us and they have seen us and they're coming after us. 63 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:06,000 When I returned to the car, there was a series of beeps. These beeps were very peculiar because it was much like a tuning fork being struck and placed against you. A very trouble type vibration. 64 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:17,000 And that's the way the car vibrated. And it was beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And I said to my wife, my God, what is that? I said, look out the window. They're right over there. 65 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,760 And she looked out of the window, but you couldn't see anything. 66 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,720 And later we find out that you couldn't see the sky as well. 67 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,960 So apparently the craft had moved overhead over us. 68 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Do you think that the metal discs then did have anything to do with that beeping sound? 69 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,440 I do, yes. 70 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:39,760 The thing that has continued to be an enigma apposal to me is that I said, 71 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,760 my God, they're going to capture us. 72 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,680 And I have never understood why. 73 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,560 I cannot understand why I made that remark. 74 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:55,840 Only to have the beeping sound and then 35 miles further south, we will beat the game. 75 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,600 And this is the only time my wife and I then began to communicate with one another 76 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,880 by saying, well, what was it we saw? 77 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,320 This is surprising because that 35 mile period, we did not discuss anything. 78 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,640 This is Earl L. speaking. 79 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,680 You didn't have a relaxed feeling at any time, did you? 80 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:14,680 Yes. 81 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:19,800 After I returned to the car and I told my wife they were going to capture us, 82 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,600 and she looked out of the window and she said she could not see them or it or the object. 83 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,000 And then we had a series of beeps. 84 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,920 There is just a void, you might say, because we did not again mention anything about, 85 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,840 we haven't seen anything until we were now 35 miles further south. 86 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,280 And we saw what we thought was a bright moon. 87 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,520 And I said, oh my God, not a game. 88 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,160 And then we were beeped again. 89 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,480 And then we can, from that point, we started talking with one another about, 90 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,480 well, what do you think of that? 91 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,800 And my wife asked me, well, do you believe in flying forces now? 92 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,120 And I said, oh, don't be silly. 93 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Of course not.